[Astrocat]

Well all of this seems to come down to whether 'free-range' is worth anything or not. You have both stated that it isn't, but I would very much like to see some concrete evidence for that.

I would very much like any evidence, concrete or otherwise, to support what you have been saying to the contrary, just as i would very much like a response to my numerous other questions.

I typed 'uk free range guidelines' into Google because I had intended to get a good compiled list of them, and this is one of the first things it came up with.

This article lists the guidelines along with appropriate comments.... so, I'll let Rachel Cummins do the talking here :
Free range poultry and eggs - DEFRA guidelines

So, do you know this already and truly think that's all ok ?

Or, did you not have this basic knowledge regarding what you are advocating , supporting, and criticising ?

Convince me that free range farming is no better than battery farming.

You seem to have no idea what sort of conditions the animals are kept in, whose body fluids you choose to consume.

I would say that if a person is going to decide to declare that conditions which animals are kept in are wonderful, morally great, ethical, and acceptable, etc.... then surely the very least one would expect, is that person knows what those conditions actually are.

Do you feel that anything which isn't at least as bad as factory farming is appropriate to commend, encourage and applaud ?

And if not, then why did you demand that I should have to 'convince you' that free range farming conditions are 'no better than' battery farm conditions ?

Surely, free range agriculture can be examined regardless of the conditions for battery farming.

It's hardly as if free-range eggs sold in supermarkets are even necessarily free range anyway....
500 million factory-farmed eggs sold in “organic” scam

If we are not going to use 'free range' as an 'approved' label for restaurants, then we would need something appropriate to replace it with - and that means a credible alternative farming standard that is widely recognised.

What do you mean by 'appropriate' ?