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http://www.itv.com/news/britain_65c4...5e06bc897.html
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While this is a step in the right direction (i.e. more information), it is almost entirely focused on health issues, rather than what Label My Food is campaigning for. It also only covers supermarkets, and won't appear anywhere near restaurants or take-aways, so it is of no value when eating out.
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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/fe...cle2124837.ece
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Possibly a sign of needing to go back to school if percentages are classed as 'complex mathematics'.
I think both labelling systems would be good. That way, the mathematically minded can get the information they want and deserve and others can simply glance at the colour code and make a quick decision based on that. |
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My intelligence has expressed to me, that it takes personal offence when confronted with something which assumes that it does not exist - for example, this traffic light labelling system.
My sense of logic had a quiet word with me too, and remarked that oversimplifying something frequently makes it meaningless. For example, under the above traffic light scheme assumedly Hemp Oil (a very healthy product) would get a red light just the same as a block of lard..... and dates would get a red light for sugar just like Mars Bars would. This sounds like a case of people trying to dumb down their explanation of a complex situation to the extent that even people with low levels of education, who are incapable of simple mathematics and understanding basic information, can comprehend it pretty much instantly. As is the case with the Food Pyramids, it would seem to be a case of oversimplification leading to obfuscation of the truth of what is actually healthful to eat or not. |
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We also concluded that it was a meaningless system, when used to show levels of animal welfare.
I stand by what i said in the other traffic lights topic : I think that often, 'traffic lights'-style labelling is too dumbed-down to convey enough information to be helpful in many if not most cases. I think this even applies to food miles, when it comes to a traffic-light system. On the surface we might say "if a product comes from the country where consumers buy it, give it a green light. If it comes from the same continent, give it an amber light and give everything else a red light" But that's clearly too simplistic. If a man from Scotland buys pesticides from Ghana, insecticide from Spain, fungicide from Iraq and herbicide from Japan, has them all sent to him in Scotland and uses them to grow 'UK produced' vegetables...... then what level of traffic lighting ought he to get ? If an English man who keeps a warehouse full of cows buys all of his feed-grain from the amazonian forest area and from America, then uses them to raise 'British cows' , then what traffic lighting ought to be used to denote any flesh 'produced' by him ? If we were to say red in both of these situations, which would be logical, then very few things on supermarket shelves would ever be marked anything other than red for food miles, and it would become the sort of thing which people ignore accordingly. And, in that scheme, what of the people who would grow things in Wick then have then trucked by road down to Dover, who would be getting amber lights even though their stuff travels further than stuff which has been sent across the channel tunnel from france ? So, maybe we should just look at the actual distance...... rather continents. But, then that makes no distinction between something which has been carried as a bulk-lot by road and ferry over a few hundred miles, and something which has been put on an aeroplane to transport it over a few hundred miles.... even though one method of transport obviously causes rather more pollution etc, causes more carbon emission, costs more, etc, than the other. So, what would you suggest ? |
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But again, that says nothing at all about whether or not gallons of chemicals, fertiliser, etc.... have been flown around in order to grow that produce. As above, that also still would make no distinction between food that has, say, been carried by public transport over 25 miles to it's sales point - and similar food which has been flown 25 miles by courier-jet over a stretch of sea to an island vendor. As I said already, I find that defining things in such a simplistic way is not very meaningful. |
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